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HOW LGF IS EVIL

We are here to expose LGF for its anti-religious agenda. Add your own comments on how LGF is evil in your eyes.

Charles hates anyone that doesn’t kiss his ass!

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what no one wants to contribute?

Comment by avideditor — August 15, 2008 @ 3:30 pm
LGF is a fake website. They hate God believers.

Comment by trajan75 — August 15, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
Charles can’t stand to be questioned, and it has been confirmed quite a lot. Atlas disagreed and he tried to ruin her and anyone that defended her. BabbaZee wasn’t useful once she stopped feeding him vlaams belang links.

And now believers are an “embarrassment” to the anti-jihad?

He can stick his sycophants up his ass. I’m sure some would love it there. A few would have to move over to make room because they’re already there.

That’s all it takes to get named an ‘operative’ these days.

Comment by Wicked — August 16, 2008 @ 9:05 pm
I remember the days of rayra, reaganite, AI and the rest of the gang, when LGF was HOT!

Comment by savagenation — August 17, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
savage how long ago was that?

Comment by avideditor — August 17, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
It’s been about 3 years now from what I recall.

Comment by savagenation — August 19, 2008 @ 11:40 am
SN - Some people don’t even know why reaganite was banned and of course, assume the worst. I went through a thread the other day and they were saying it was better without bigel, reaganite, et al - because they don’t need the “kill ‘em all” people around. Reaganite and Ann fought AGAINST the “kill ‘em all” people like AI and bigel. And he banned himself, way before King Charles banned him to try to look all tough. Dumbass stepford lizards (I am so using that now).

Comment by Wicked — August 20, 2008 @ 6:59 am
Sure seems like a lot of “tolerance” over at LGF now. I’m sorry that I was banned.

/not.

Comment by Passionate Conservative — August 20, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
Passionate Conservative Says:
August 20, 2008 at 1:27 pm

Sure seems like a lot of “tolerance” over at LGF now. I’m sorry that I was banned.

It’s not too tough to figure out why you were banned. I notice you have ‘Atlas Shrugs’ in your blogroll. You must not have paid attention during the ‘two minute hates’ to the fact that she personally is in bed with KKK types in Europe. Of course she isn’t, but the groupthink is rigorously enforced by a handful of obsessive compulsives who fanatically cut and paste “dirt” on any and all posters. Their activities makes Nixon’s “enemies list” look like a day at the beach by comparison. Personally, I find the thought that some aging former lefty, pony tailed ex-musician could be running what some (the N Y Times for-cryin-out-loud?) consider a “conservative” web site to be a joke.
Look at who comments; a trio of lawyers with very little else to do (Which is good in a way, I guess). Sharmuta, a very ready, willing, and available (guess what the nic means?) female with men issues. Killgore? A militant atheist whose (no-doubt alcohol fueled) wet dream is to personally bring down Robert Spencer. Throw in a bunch of people who are waiting to get through to the CSPAN call in show, about 20 thousand sock puppets, and one or two intelligent comments per thousand. The voice of conservatives? Hardly.
It’s a joke. One that is not very funny to true conservatives.

Comment by Kurt Vonnegut IV — August 20, 2008 @ 2:22 pm
Kurt,

Don’t forget the pottymouth MandyManners.

What a foul mouthed Communist. That’s right, she used to be a member of the CPUSA, actually voted for Gus Hall for POTUS.

Comment by savagenation — August 20, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
Passionate Conservative, thats a very nice blog you have. I like it

Comment by savagenation — August 20, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
Thanks! Little politics, little fun, lotsa pics and vids.

You ever been to “Caption This” before?

http://www.kurlander.blogspot.com/

Frickin’ hilarious stuff over there.

Comment by Passionate Conservative — August 20, 2008 @ 8:46 pm
v the k is a genius.

Comment by savagenation — August 22, 2008 @ 11:20 am
If you have not read this masterpiece by Bob, you should surely do so and mark it as a favorite. One of the best things of any kind I have read in a very long time. This guy should be writing more books.

http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/search?q=Proof+of+Proof+is+Proof+of+God+

Comment by Jef — August 22, 2008 @ 3:15 pm
What happened? I posted this fantastic link to an amazing slap down of Chuckie and it did not show up?

Read this; you will not be sorry! By the way Charles, if you read it, you will probably need someone to translate and explain it to you!

http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/search?q=Proof+of+Proof+is+Proof+of+God+

Comment by Jeff — August 22, 2008 @ 3:22 pm
All I have to say is, My last post was “Two in a day, eh?”

Comment by LanceKates — August 27, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
I wish my last post was ‘Charles, you’re an idiot!’

Comment by savagenation — August 27, 2008 @ 8:32 pm
One poster, I think pro-bush canuck (could be someone else) was banned for mentioning (amongst other things) that Charles really wasn’t a wonderous programmer, called him average, I believe.

Heh. Ego, thy name is Charles.

Comment by LanceKates — September 1, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
indeed!

Comment by savagenation — September 1, 2008 @ 12:49 pm
LanceKates,
Yes I remember that. This poster called out Charles as not a good coder. He banned the guy. How dare tjhat poster disrespect Charles the Great.

Comment by Rodan — September 1, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
Charles a good coder? I think it’s he and his brother that do the coding. I’ll never forget the morning when all hell broke out when a comment that “allegedly” was deleted was still appearing on peoples screen. BabbaZee threw a shit fit and never came back. Charles was not man enough to admit that there was an anomaly in his code and that in fact deleted comments still appeared on most peoples screens. So he blamed BabbaZee and banned a bunch that stood up for her. You’re just supposed to ignore all the slowdowns, the script error messages, and the endless spinning icons. It’s a nice blog, but far from fast and error free. It’s kind of amazing that he slows every page load/refresh request down to check the requesting I.P. against a list. That’s so petty.

Comment by Kurt Vonnegut IV — September 1, 2008 @ 1:52 pm
I found it interesting that my PC would run along fine until I hit LGF, then it would REALLY bog down, loading all of those ads and all the checks and such.

It LOOKED nice and all, but really…. if I didn’t like the community of friends I had there, I’d have long since left for the annoyance surfing the page created.

Comment by LanceKates — September 1, 2008 @ 1:55 pm
That could be a humorous thread: “Last posts to Charles”

Mine would be “Good to see you back in men’s clothes!”

Comment by traveler — September 1, 2008 @ 2:34 pm
that would be a great collection

Comment by savagenation — September 1, 2008 @ 2:43 pm
i dohn’t like lgf becauz charles iz a meeenie poo hoo yelled at me for calling all muslims evil nazis. cuz they are. reaally. i hate charles sooo much. this site is way better then lgf. yur soo cool.

Comment by some_guy — September 1, 2008 @ 9:09 pm
Charles is a cult leader.

Comment by Rodan — September 1, 2008 @ 9:30 pm
I have plenty of socks. They are called minions.

Comment by Charles — September 2, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
Charles, no, no, no, you are wrong yet again

A minion is: a servile dependent, follower, underling.

A sock is” a blog hand puppet or a blogger using a different name, but the same mouth as in ‘a hand puppet’.

Comment by bar — September 2, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
Hardly anyone who posts in my commune uses their real name. They are all socks, and I have a huge data dresser drawer that is full of them.

Comment by Charles — September 2, 2008 @ 7:06 pm
Now “charles” is correct there. I can’t think of anyone, apart from myself, who regularly posted and used their real name.

And, to think, I sometimes caught FLAK for that.

Comment by LanceKates — September 2, 2008 @ 7:10 pm
Lance, what about LeePro?

Comment by savagenation — September 2, 2008 @ 7:17 pm
savage, no idea.

was his name really Lee Pro?

there were some ‘famous’ people who used their real name, but they never posted more than very seldomly and randomly.

Of the regulars that were there every day, I think everyone hid behind a false name.

I don’t have a PROBLEM with people using nicks to post… I just prefer to have my real name associated with what I post. Helps to keep me honest, knowing that in the 2016 election cycle I could be asked, “Lance, in 2003, you said on a blog that….”

Comment by LanceKates — September 2, 2008 @ 7:25 pm
LeePro is a gal

Comment by savagenation — September 2, 2008 @ 7:31 pm
Heh. Yeah….. I didn’t know them, so …. oops. lol.

Comment by LanceKates — September 4, 2008 @ 6:43 pm
How come I haven’t banned? Can I post here without being banned?

Comment by Rancher — September 25, 2008 @ 5:53 am
Rancher:

AFAIK, the ban stick stays at Charlie’s place.

Comment by Passionate Conservative — September 25, 2008 @ 6:36 am
Rancher, no ban stick over here. Except for spambots, which I got rid of a couple minutes ago.

Comment by savagenation — September 25, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
I noticed somewhere early in this thread that SN said that LGF used to be hot… and he’s right. I still like LGF, but it was better when I first started reading it about four and a half years ago. I doubt I’ve left more than 10 comments since 2005.

Comment by melo — October 3, 2008 @ 10:26 pm
*sigh*
It looks like Chucky is at it again

What’s the matter with this guy? Did his old man beat him when he was a kid or somethin’?

Comment by Escovado — October 4, 2008 @ 8:26 am
escovdo, looks to me like Chas is on the edge of losing his mind, if he’s not there already.

Comment by savagenation — October 4, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
What I found kinda funny about that thread.

When the Discovery Institute has a reply to the same old lame LGF lies and innuendo about them, Queeg claims they are bashing him .

I laughed, Chuck is such an intellectual lightweight and still illiterate to boot. DI replies with real facts while LGF plays innuendo with the only fact being, Chuck said it so it must be true, just like Mohammed, I am a prophet and the proof is, because he said so.

Notice the typical lefty liberal Buzz word, “bashing”, it gets the LGF minions in an uproar and knowing that few would ever question whether it was true or not. In reality LGF is the one doing all the bashing, so turn about is fair play, well unless you are fragile and insecure and illiterate.

California doesn’t have enough cheese to go with the LGF whine.

Comment by bar — October 6, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
LGF in my opinion is nothing more than the monkey exhibit at your typical zoo. Bunch of rabid simians over there, hooting and screeching every time Chas snatches the damn banana away. hehehe

Comment by savagenation — October 6, 2008 @ 8:34 pm
It looks to me like Chucky has no qualms about using the tatics of the radical left when it suits him.

Comment by Escovado — October 6, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
Charles is a cry baby.

Comment by Rodan — October 8, 2008 @ 11:43 am
Wow, I am so happy I came across this site through a trackback. I left LGF about 4 months ago when the anti-Christian stuff got deep. Glad to see I wasn’t the only one. Thanks for the site!!!

Comment by melachiro — October 23, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
I met Savage, and others, at lgf almost seven years ago.
It was basically a fun place to hang, and met some great folks there, that I am still innernut buds with.
It wasn’t until the ill fated Hurricane Katrina, with a resulting illegal fundraiser hosted by one Bayou King on lgf, that everything started to go sideways. All Chucky did, as demands were made for an accounting of the funds and goods donated, was to tell everyone to take it some place else. Some did, and Chucky started banning people for what they were saying at Gulf Coast Pundit. I joined up with my friends at GCP, and just left lgf. I may have been banned in absentia, I don’t know, but the purging that took place after many of us left, was amazing.
Had Chucky used his banning stick judiciously, and rid our midst of such characters as the aforementioned scammer,
American Infidel, and a few others, all would have been well…for a time. Chucky ultimately demonstrated what a Charley Sierra MoFo he truly is. I never bashed on Chucky, just left. It wasn’t until he started in on Fjordman on his contrived “waythist” allegations, and then banned Fjordman, that I finally voiced my opinion about how Chucky conducted himself, at Gates of Vienna.
When all is said and done, it’s Chucky’s sandbox, just as this is Savage’s, and can do what he wishes. I just never saw anyone wish for sepuku, though.

Comment by no2liberals — October 23, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
no2liberals and melachiro,
Welcome and unlike LGF you can disagree with save or I.
We don’t ban.

Comment by Rodan — October 23, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
Rodan, Savage and I go waaay back.
I don’t know if we have ever disagreed on anything or not, but if we did, it never interfered with our netship.
I never worry about getting banned. I probably was banned at lgf, in my absence, but never bothered to go back and find out. I just did a Kaiser Sosa, and *poof* was gone.
Savage and I both did the USAF thingie, and were at Clark AB, at different times, but shared in many of the…uhh…delights of life in the PI.

Comment by no2liberals — October 23, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
no2liberals,
Glad to hear that. Savage is a good man. He defended me when Killgore and his gang went after my on LGF. He stood by me when others wanted me banned.

Comment by Rodan — October 23, 2008 @ 9:47 pm
Rodan, did you use the same nic at lgf?
I don’t recall it prior to the fall of 2005.
Regardless, life moves on, and so here you are.
Best wishes.
I hang mostly at another former lgf member’s blog, but will drop by temp de temp.
The meat world requires most of my attention.

Comment by no2liberals — October 24, 2008 @ 4:13 am
no2liberal,
I was on from Nov 07 - Feb 08. I was banned because I was against the creation of Kossovo. I was label a genocidal Serb love.
I posted that yes I support the Serbs over Islam any day.

Comment by Rodan — October 24, 2008 @ 8:30 am
n2l, good to see you.

Yeah, Rodan, we go back to the beginning of LGF. When it was a good site.

Comment by savagenation — October 24, 2008 @ 3:40 pm
melachiro, good to see you too. Which trackback did you find us at?

Comment by savagenation — October 24, 2008 @ 3:41 pm
Hey Savage!

Rodan, just so you will know, I am still conflicted about the independence of Kosovo. I’ve gotten into some discussions ot GoV, as most there are opposed to it, but from what I have seen and read, it seems a better idea than forcing them to be subservient to the Blue Helmets or Serbs, in perpetuity.
If you haven’t, Michael J. Totten did a long and interesting tour of the Balkans a few months ago, and what he experienced and wrote about was fascinating.
The Kosovars were rejecting the attempts by the Saudi Wahabists to make in-roads into their country.
I know many people from the ME, some muslims, and am good friends with many from the ME that have left islam. They are even harder on islam than I am, and I believe it should be banned as a death cult.
Here is one excellent piece, if you haven’t read it.

The KLA may have refused entry into Kosovo to radical groups from the Middle East during the war, but that hasn’t stopped dubious characters from the Gulf states from showing up in Kosovo anyway since the war ended. Saudi-funded NGOs volunteered to help rebuild mosques destroyed by the Yugoslav Army and Serbian nationalist paramilitary forces, which is fine and good as far as it goes, but there’s a catch. The same individuals hope to transform Kosovo’s liberal Balkan Islam into the much sterner Wahhabi variety practiced in the harsh deserts of Saudi Arabia.

“We don’t call them Wahhabis here,” a prominent Albanian woman told me. “We call them Binladensa, the people of Bin Laden.” Believe me, in Kosovo that isn’t a compliment.

All of his entries from his travels in Yugo, Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia(really creepy), and Kosovo are in his archives from May or June, into August.

Comment by no2liberals — October 24, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
You know, it’s weird, but I remember the nic Kilgore Trout, but nothing he ever wrote rings with me. I guess he was mostly a day time poster, and I at night, but it seems I just pretty much scrolled over his postings, as they seemed dull and soul-less. He was there before I showed up at lgf, and he seemed to have some cred because of it, but I don’t recall anything he wrote, his style or focus, or ever even having an exchange with him.
Things must have changed after I left, and his significance as a high value member increased.
I remember a time when all sorts of contentious debates raged at lgf, and different people would be on different sides, at different times. Such as the Terry Schiavo debacle. I don’t understand having a comment section for people to voice their opinions, if all one wants is doctrinaire dialogue.
Sure, Chucky got complaints from some who didn’t like the flame wars that erupted, but that is a separate issue than a difference of opinion.
Oh, and I really hated, HATED being called a lizard. I never once described myself as one.
I hate those things, even if they do eat a lot of insects.

Comment by no2liberals — October 25, 2008 @ 2:19 pm
Just checked blog stats at nuke’s, and the so-called minions of Chucky, have been clicking there. I’m sure it is from the links I posted up above.
So, everyone smile and wave at Chucky!

Comment by no2liberals — October 25, 2008 @ 8:21 pm
Good mornin’, SN. First time visitor and commentor. Nice site!

Comment by swampie — October 26, 2008 @ 8:45 am
Ah, what a great place to let off a little stream.

I guess I’m the latest casualty at LGF.

Yesterday morning, I posted many links in the LGF ‘link viewer’. All were miscellaneous news about the Obama campaign, including the latest viral video of Biden’s Interview.

Among the many links was ONE about the Berg lawsuit demanding Obama’s birth certificate. I was unaware of Charles’ declaration of no mentioning the certificate. So, I was immediately banned.

Now Charles is lying and saying I “insisted on posting links” about the certificate, implying I had repeatedly ignored his warning.

It was ONE link, Charles. You know it. You are a liar.

(comment #29, http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31694_Video-_Angry_Joe_Biden_Gets_Grilled)

PS: Thanks to LGF2 for letting me respond to Charles’ lie.

Comment by DJM — October 26, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
DJM,
You are welcome here. Charles is a Leftists pretending to be a conservativbe. He is a Cult Leader and Im glad u R free of that cult.

Comment by Rodan — October 26, 2008 @ 10:49 pm
DJM

you’re lucky. My ‘death post’ was “Two in a day, eh?”

Comment by LanceKates — October 28, 2008 @ 8:10 pm
Oh, and in the time it took me to load up that LGF link you posted, I was able to read the post after yours, contemplate replying to you, reply to you, wait for it to load and look at it again.

LGF’s site takes too long to load. Clogs up my system.

Comment by LanceKates — October 28, 2008 @ 8:12 pm
Yeah, that was definitely a down side to LGF.

Comment by DJM — October 29, 2008 @ 3:58 am
“LGF’s site takes too long to load. Clogs up my system.”

Lance,

Look at that as a positive thing: When you’re tempted to go over there to see what’s going on, it gives you time to ask yourself, ‘is this really worth the wait?’ And the answer is usually, ‘nah!’

Comment by Escovado — October 29, 2008 @ 5:04 am
Ok, and Nancy’s reasoning for putting the birth certificate in the “hidden Obama files” is…?

What the hell? Is that not something we want, NO… NEED to know about? The man won’t release a simple birth certificate and wants to be POTUS. This isn’t a “smear” or a “right-wing lie”, it is a question of eligibility. Good god!

Comment by LD — October 30, 2008 @ 11:48 am
LD,

Ddi you see the post I made about Obama being the potential son of that ratbastard Communist Frank Davis? That is the real reason Barry is hiding that birth certificate…

Comment by savagenation — October 30, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Another casualty at LGF: Robert Spencer

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023306.php

Go figure.

Comment by DJM — November 1, 2008 @ 4:30 am
Yep!
So you will know, linking your site to the GoV thread on Robert Spencer.

Comment by no2liberals — November 1, 2008 @ 7:16 am
I see that LGF did Charles Johnson proud.

Sharmuta left a mile long snail trail as she bravely attacked Robert Spencer, what a bunch of assclowns.

LGF now makes daily Kos look somewhat normal.

Bye, bye, LGF, Charles has ridden that limited reputation into the ground and I cant say I didn’t know it was coming.

LGF and their pseudo assclown king, Charles Johnson, what a bunch of freaks.

Comment by bar — November 1, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
Well, I got a thought for Charles Johnson, and I know he is reading this.

Look pal, you might as well admit that you are working for the Islamists with your mindless behavior, cutting off Spencer.

I hope the FBI and DHS are starting to look into you further.

Fucking pussy!

Comment by savagenation — November 1, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
speaking of pussy.

How about Barack’s mommy nude!

http://patdollard.com/2008/10/obamas-mom-posing-as-nude-whore-christmas-gift-for-socialist-leader/

Comment by bar — November 1, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
LOL bar!

hehehe

Comment by savagenation — November 1, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
Robert Spencer is not just other blogger that Prince Charles can try to throw under the bus. Spencer being such a well respected best selling author, this is going to show the rest that Little Green Foot-in-the-balls is just a snake pit cult than some dumbass lizard army.

Just because you draw a crowd doesn’t make you anything special or more than a wannabe circle jerk. Instead birds of the feather flock together, more appropriate would be all the shit from a thousand toilets flows down the same pipe at LGF.

Comment by revparadigm — November 1, 2008 @ 3:53 pm
bar
Gee, thanks!
Here it is, a Saturday night, and my nads have been slapped with a fan belt from a LeTourneau front loader.

Comment by no2liberals — November 1, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
n2l,

Ouch! Holy shit man….

Comment by savagenation — November 1, 2008 @ 9:17 pm
savage,
Hey, bar did it with those pics.
/still hurts

Comment by no2liberals — November 1, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
n2l, it might be the ghost of St. Pancake comin at ya!

Comment by savagenation — November 1, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
I’m so happy to find this blog.

As for why LGF is evil . . . I was banned for suggesting that anti-Creationism wasn’t all that compelling and, thus, dingnig down Charles’s posts regarding it.

After a few days of puzzlement, I noticed that Charles explained anyone who dinged down his posts on Creationism would be banned. Why have such a system when you only want people to vote one way?

Comment by AC Hall — November 1, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
Why have such a system when you only want people to vote one way?

CONTROL….

Thats the reason.

Comment by savagenation — November 1, 2008 @ 10:26 pm
I saw the movie that started it all. Charles write from some one that hasn’t saw it. I will give it to anyone that want to check it out. Intelligent design does not = creationism IMHO. That to me is all “Expelled” is about.

Comment by avideditor — November 2, 2008 @ 6:50 am
Savage,
No, it was a direct and immediate assault on my nads by those pics, I’m telling ya’.

AC Hall, another example of the Charlie Sierra behavior of Chucky.

Comment by no2liberals — November 2, 2008 @ 7:25 am
Sorry about those nude pics.

Comment by bar — November 2, 2008 @ 10:21 am
bar,
Then why are you laughing?

Comment by no2liberals — November 2, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
n2l,

I put nukes site in the blogroll….

Comment by savagenation — November 2, 2008 @ 11:13 pm
OK,… enough already.

I admit, I am Lucifer’s bitch.

Comment by Charles — November 3, 2008 @ 12:41 am
Charles expose Obama for who he really is. Some one that will destroy America and wants all jews dead. If he wins it is Charles fault. I don’t think he will win. The war with the discovery center could be forgoten. Have you ever seen “Expelled”? I think it is a good movie and from what I can tell the discovery center’s only crime is supporting Russia during the last war.

Comment by avideditor — November 3, 2008 @ 1:00 am
It was the general accusations against John Hagee, chargin him with being anti-Jewish, that I first took issue with. Didn’t know he had such an overall depreciation of religious believers.

Comment by Ken L. — November 3, 2008 @ 11:15 am
I think Hagee is a good man. I wish I could say that about Charles or Obama.

Comment by avideditor — November 3, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
I stumbled upon LGF back when I was still in college (before I was dismissed for academic reasons); I’m not sure precisely how, except that I used StumbleUpon, and discovered the right blogosphere first through IMAO, the Rottweiler Empire, and Kim du Toit, and at some point, possibly during Memogate, I followed a link to LGF.

What I appreciated about LGF was its scale, both in the number of comments and the number of posts by Charles. With that kind of people power there isn’t much of anything that John Kerry then, or Barack Obama now could pull without being caught and outed by someone. It’s a mindbogglingly convenient place in many respects.

When Expelled came out and the discussion got into that subject material, I knew there was likely no practical point in trying to defend creationism at LGF. I tried to argue first that it was intellectually dishonest to assert that “all” the evidence points to evolution, if only to open up discussion on things like the RATE project, and Charles dismissed that line of argument with a link to Talkorigins.org and asserted that it debunked everything the creationists were likely to raise (Note: Suggesting a few potential sources of error in a test—which is what many of the so-called refutations of creationist claims at TO consist of— is not the same as refuting the conclusions of those who performed the test. Carrying out further tests to demonstrate the extent to which a hypothesized source of error can affect the result would be how it would actually work in a scientific environment— correct me if I’m wrong). When it became clear that was going nowhere I tried to content myself with correcting some of the strawman depictions of creationists that persisted thereafter, but obviously nobody cared about that because the same people persist in the same distortions. I suppose one reason I wasn’t promptly banned then was because I was careful to upding cogent arguments and to downding the sloppy arguments no matter who was making them. It was also frustrating for a while because Charles felt the need to remind people that I was a creationist and fundamentally anti-science whenever I started sounding rational. To his credit he did back off some after I had to spell out that not all of my opinions on science are particularly dependent on my creationism.

A bit later, I announced my position on the role of the public school system in the evolution issue: that students should first be given a better grounding in the foundational sciences in order to better understand the evidence being presented in favor of evolution ( which may lead to varying conclusions), and that the Discovery Institute’s strategy was inappropriate. Charles’ reaction to this was that I obviously must have had a change of heart because I’ve previously been established as a young-earth creationist and now I’m coming out in strong support of science. Really, that was just insulting, and I’ve had enough of trying to appease the Lizard King.

Comment by George guy — November 4, 2008 @ 3:56 am
I think Charles hasn’t watched the movie “Expelled” and is soft on Obama. George guy welcome. What did you like about LGF? We will try to have it here.

Comment by avideditor — November 4, 2008 @ 4:47 am
What I liked about LGF is the intelligence-gathering potential of just having that many active members,

Comment by George guy — November 4, 2008 @ 7:08 am
Well this explains why I wouldn’t even get a nod or an acknowledgement for my website. I saw a need to bring all the good CT resources together in one site for the newbies (like me; to research and gain their understanding about what we are facing) and I never got a response from LGF.

http://www.ct-feeds.com

Comment by buckeye — November 4, 2008 @ 9:34 am
Not having read much of LGF, I have little knowledge of his position on the problem of Islam.

My guess is that he is what I call an “asymptotic analyst” of the problem of Islam — i.e., he does not criticize Islam per se, and he also leaves the vast majority of Muslims uncriticized, and he ends up only criticizing a relatively small portion of Islam, essentially the “small minority of extremists who are trying to ‘hijack’ the otherwise great religion of Islam”.

Am I correct?

If I am, I suspect that what drives CJ is what seems to be his essential Leftism. (Leftism, by its nature, tends to be anti-Christian, anti-Religion, and anti-American, though many Leftists will protest that they “love America”, while at the same time defining “America” to suit their purposes and less to conform to the facts.)

CJ came to the party, so to speak, with his mind already filled with Leftist givens, and he only budged an inch with regard to condemning those who perpetrated 911 by recognizing that there exist extremists and terrorists out there who are Muslims. But his non-negotiable Leftism severely limited his interpretation of that fact, and the ensuing facts of Muslim atrocities and evidences of intolerance since then.

Comment by Hesperado — November 7, 2008 @ 9:22 am
For anyone that used to comment on LGF, now commenting here…

I know this sounds simplistic, but I believe Charlie’s real ulterior motive for seemingly moving left, attacking Robert Spencer, etc… is not entirely based on some deep seated tenet but something far more juvenile.

The need to feel relevant.

Over the past few years, LGF has become less and less visible. So by stirring controversy, Charlie keeps himself in the news. I never found Charles Johnson deep enough to make some stand on account of long-held principle. For instance, if he was really concerned about fascism, etc., why not take it private with Robert Spencer to discuss rather than trashing him publically? Did he not have great respect for Spencer’s works?

How many of us read glowing praise about Robert Spencer for several years, only now to find him sliced and diced? Either Charlie suffers from some malady like bi-polar disorder, he is an absolute poor judge of character, or he’s got a need for attention like the class clown in the sixth grade class.

Charlie got a taste of fame. I think it is the latter.

Comment by Tex Taylor — November 7, 2008 @ 10:20 am
Tex Taylor, I do believe you’ve hit the nail on the head with that one.

Comment by LD — November 7, 2008 @ 10:29 am
You don’t know CJ, and you don’t read LGF.

There are people who have figured out that the extremists threat did not start on 9/11. There are people who have figured out that it goes back even to before 1946. The marines sing about the shores of Tripoli, because they had to defeat “terrorists” in the 1800’s.

It really isn’t about left and right anymore. I don’t think it ever was. It is about opening your eyes to know that you are at war, and have been for many years.

It is also about understanding that support for Israel is key to defending the USA against the enemy. That the Jew has been the “canary in the coal mine”, and instead of just feeding the poison gas another canary, it might be time to stop the gas.

You make up the “non-negotiable Leftism”, and in my opinion use it like a straw man. CJ has done nothing to show any intolerance for Christians, Religion, and certainly not America.

No, you are not correct.

Comment by Buck — November 7, 2008 @ 10:44 am
Buck, you’ve not been paying attention to your hero lately.

If you think slamming Robert Spencer as a “genocide promoter” and “nazi” is anything but dishonest you’ve got problems. He banned people for updinging Robert’s comments. He banned people for questioning him. He banned LanceKates for “two in a day, heh?”. He banned ec marm for refusing to delink Gagdad Bob after Bob posted a rebuttal to his latest “project”.

If you think calling Pamela Geller a nazi sympathizer is a true statement, you can’t be helped.

Ask your buddy how many Christians he banned just for having the AUDACITY to disagree with him?

Sorry, but you are not correct.

But run on back to the little green boogers website and have a good time bashing anyone that dares to disagree with Charles, but be sure to wash your hands when you leave.

Shit sticks I’m sure.

Comment by LD — November 7, 2008 @ 11:10 am
I need to start proofreading my crap. Lord, that last one looked like a 3rd grader wrote it. Make that publicly.

Buck, I never said Johnson didn’t recognize the enemy during 9/11. I damn toddler could understand that if they weren’t some lefty Marxist and Obama lovin’ type. Charlie did some good works for a time exposing these self-loathing, American hating assholes on campus and in the media. Spencer does it much better.

But you’re too busy puffing Charlie if you don’t recognize C.J. an equal opportunity religious bigot. Don’t give me the bullshit we didn’t read LGF or that bogus strawman Philosophy 101 you dopes like to spout. I left damn near 10,000 posts before I departed and you wouldn’t recognize a straw man if your name was Dorothy.

Comment by Tex Taylor — November 7, 2008 @ 1:03 pm
Charles Johnson hits bottom, digs (Part 2)
———
Buck said,
You don’t know CJ, and you don’t read LGF.

That is not true. I was a member there for a few years, and I read LGF plenty.

I not only read the news stories, but I sometimes waded into the comment area to read what folks were chatting about.

I wasn’t as “into” LGF as much as some other people, in that I did not slavishly follow that blog every single day, but I read enough of it to know what the people, including “CJ,” were like.

LD said,
Ask your buddy how many Christians he banned just for having the AUDACITY to disagree with him?

Yep, I can verify and testify to the truthfulness of that.

I’m a Christian who, at LGF, posted links to sites that argue against Darwinism in a total of about 5 posts over a month or two (so it’s not like I was spamming his blog with the stuff and posting these links every day in every thread), I logged in one day, and found that my account was blocked.

I usually didn’t preface my Darwin themed posts by writing anything, I simply pasted in links to the content.

When I did preface the links by saying something, my remarks were innocuous, not rude or insulting.

There was a time or two when I slammed Darwinism itself at LGF, but I did not insult Johnson the man or the people who held the view.

I was careful to be polite, so that Johnson could not use rudeness as an excuse to ban me. But he (or one of his “monitor lizards”) banned me anyhow.

Amazing: Johnson and his flying monkey minions are threatened merely by LINKS to pages that politely disagree with his views. That is the insane level of censorship that is going on at LGF.

The only time I saw Johnson do anything that could be construed as ’sticking up for’ Christians was in the thread about Ann Coulter making her comments on a talk show about Jews being “perfected.”

Someone came into that Coulter thread going out of his way to say insulting things about Christians to the point that even the Jewish people in the thread were saying the guy was obnoxious.

Eventually Johnson did ban that particular Christian-bashing poster.

But I don’t think the motive was that Johnson cares that Christians were being bashed: Johnson was receiving outcries from folks in that thread begging him to do something about the obnoxious guy.

This took place before Johnson’s crazy, peculiar, nutty Jihad against Intelligent Design and Creationism.

It reveals a nice double standard (or a total change of heart):
Johnson himself doesn’t mind insulting Christians in the context of Evolution discussion, but he won’t allow the same behavior in another context.

I think Johnson tries to depict himself as a defender of Jews or Judaism, and yet he’s persecuting another group of believers (Christians).

Johnson has the nerve to fault Muslims for persecuting believers (Jews and Christians), but he’s engaging in a form of this behavior himself.

Although I don’t recall Johnson expressing concern over Christians being the victims of Muslim oppression.

Muslims in many Middle East nations also ban or silence Christians to one degree or another, or else harass Christians:
one is not permitted to bring Bibles into those nations; Christians there (and in other nations) are prohibited from holding church services, etc.

China has firm rules about how, when, and where Christians may worship and what topics their preachers may preach about.

I’m seeing a lot of similarities between Johnson and communist and Islamic nations that discriminate against Christians.

That he himself can’t see it is incredible, since he’s the one who’s run an “Anti Islamic Jihad” blog for several years now.

Comment by RainyDay — November 7, 2008 @ 1:45 pm
As a recently ‘excommunicated’ LGF member I would like to begin by saying that I’m glad to have found this site. As a way of introduction I’ve pasted below a comment I left at Jihad Watch a couple days ago.

I would love to linger here now , taking the time to read all that is here and offering some thoughts, but I’ve got to head out the door. I’m hoping I can return later in the day.

Excellent guys. Excellent.
Sojourner

[P.S. The Excommunicated thread at JW is now closed for comments -- I'm certain for good reason. To the LGF member who posted at JW under the name Family Values: I had hoped to comment further and thank you for your response.]

//// My account at Little Green Footballs, under the user name Yankee Sojourner, was blocked after participating in the 2nd Open Thread on Halloween night. I posted 3 brief comments that night, and if memory serves me correctly, I dinged-down a couple anti-Jihad Watch posts - including the one where Charles Johnson said that Robert Spencer had made his choice.

I used the LGF contact feature to ask, “Can you please tell me why my account has been blocked?” but even as I typed I knew I would never get a reply. Since joining LGF I had occasion to contact LGF on three or four separate occasions and never once received a response, not even an automated one.

I invite anyone over @LGF to review my posts since joining LGF in April of this year and tell me what heinous crime I committed that was worthy of being ‘excommunicated’. The truth is I don’t know exactly why I was banned. Anyone who knows me knows I am not a racist and if Charles Johnson or anyone ever got that impression I would wish for an opportunity to defend myself against such a charge.

In stark contrast to Speech Sheriff Johnson, Robert Spencer sent me a courteous expeditious reply after I emailed him a few days ago to relate that I had been blocked from LGF and to inquire if he knew of any others who had had a similar post-Halloween experience.

Thank you Mr. Spencer for your timely response and for being among those forefront political bloggers who care more about educating than they do witch hunt censoring. I’ve learned a lot about foreign and domestic affairs from you. And unlike Charles Johnson, anyone who frequents Jihad Watch well knows you pay more than lip service to the 1st Amendment and the right of dissent.

As an American, untraditional upperclassman majoring in Political Science, and native of New Hampshire who believes in our state motto “Live Free or Die”, it is with no small measure of respect that I extend my appreciation for your scholarship and groundbreaking contributions.

To borrow from an article I read long ago, as far I’m concerned Charles Johnson is a rotten apple fallen off the cart and rolling downhill in the marketplace of ideas. You on the other hand Robert are among the big red shiny ones atop the cart that catch the eye of those eager to learn. ////

Comment by Sojourner — November 7, 2008 @ 3:46 pm
I too have been banned from LGF. Geez, after reading the above comments, I now relish it as a badge of honor. (And LGF was a website that I’ve recommended to many others.)

My beginning to being banned (which happened last week)was reading through the comments thread at LGF and reading a comment by Charles Johnson about Robert Spencer. And then reading other comments others had posted about Robert Spencer. So then I went over to Jihad Watch to see if Mr Spencer had anything to say about it.

Frankly, I just couldn’t believe the scurrilous posts about Mr Spencer. I’m very saddened to see what has happened but the good thing in all of this is that my eyes have been opened.

LGF used to be a great website. I learned about Islam. I used to love to read the comments section. Charles Johnson had done some great work. I remember even the religious Dennis Prager (a creationist) had Charles on his show.

What I realize is I need to get back to reading Jihad Watch. Robert Spencer is definitely one of my mentors and I am both pained and angered at what LGF has done to him.

But reading what others have to say about their experience at LGF reinforces what I have been feeling about that website. It really has become irrelevent with lots of open threads and just silly comments. It has certainly lost it’s lustre from years past.

Comment by Michael Crosby — November 8, 2008 @ 8:01 am
Congratulations Michael. You’ll feel better for it. You’ve got your own mind and there’s no need to slavishly follow some amateur Internet nerd who you wouldn’t hang around with in real life. LGF is more ignorant and biased than any of the people they accuse. Treat everything you think you’ve learned there with suspicion. It’s the Internet equivalent of a third world madrassa with some simplistic cleric issuing fatwas against all and sundry. The kids in the third world madrassas have an excuse. They don’t have access to the Internet or a proper library. The people still at LGF have no excuse.

Also, congrats to LGF2 for giving someone else the chance to let all the other little white mice back in the maze know why they disappeared.

One more of us, one less of them. That’s made my day.

Comment by Bweep — November 8, 2008 @ 8:54 am
Also, congrats to LGF2 for giving someone else the chance to let all the other little white mice back in the maze know why they disappeared.

Bweep, thanks for that comment. Really.

Comment by savagenation — November 8, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
By the way, I am an agnostic who respects all religions except for one (Islam), and I especially respect Christianity for its major role in enriching and benefiting Western civilization.

Comment by Hesperado — November 8, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
I was banned by voting down article on Vlaams Belang. What kind of idiot provides voting tools to people and bans them when they vote something down? I guess someone with a lizard-size brain…

Comment by Peter — November 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
I was banned by voting down article on Vlaams Belang. What kind of idiot provides voting tools to people and bans them when they vote something down? I guess someone with a lizard-size brain…

I have often wondered why doesn’t Charles just disable the down ding when there is some thread he refuses to let someone disagree? It’s as if he uses his tools as rat bait, or something.

AH, got another one…

Comment by Tex Taylor — November 12, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
I was banned by voting down article on Vlaams Belang. What kind of idiot provides voting tools to people and bans them when they vote something down? I guess someone with a lizard-size brain…

Yep. He did the same thing to me for voting down an evolution thread. At least that’s what I assume. I had to read all of his posts for a few weeks to figure out that his new policy was to deport those who vote for the wrong candidate.

I thought he wanted feedback, but I guess it was to root out the dissenters.

Comment by AC Hall — November 12, 2008 @ 6:55 pm
Speaking of VB, Pam has a good piece up about it, and GoV has a thread.
Proving A Narcissist’s Negative.
/ooh…that’s gonna leave a mark

Comment by no2liberals — November 12, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
Charles is a control freak.

Comment by Rodan — November 12, 2008 @ 7:45 pm
It would appear that Chuck is undergoing a mental meltdown, and seems to be experiencing a crisis of faith as his mother’s terminal cancer progresses unabated. About a month ago he requested several groups praying for his mom to cease and desist just about the time he went from weird to creepy. As his social personality slipped further I think his leftist background began to reassert itself and that is what we are seeing more and more, especially over the last month. The man is obviously quite troubled and as his paranoia and mild megalomania grows we will probably see the eventual demise of what used to be not a bad site. Very sad really.

Comment by Aussie Infidel — November 19, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
I think the site is evil because CJ is masquerading as a conservative, but he is instead launching an all out subversive attack on it through suppression and mockery. I wish he would come out of the closet and just admit he’s a frackin’ liberal. People are beginning to see right through him and his hateful agenda. Give it a few more years and I think we will begin to see more and more of the “real” Charles, especially as the next election draws near.

Comment by tuffasnails — November 19, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
#108. Aussie Infidel, you posted something similar in another thread here, and as I told you in my reply in the other thread-

My own mother died earlier this year.

My Mom’s death has broken my heart, but it has not caused me to become bitter and irrational, or to turn against people, nor have I been banning people like crazy from my own blogs and boards.

I was very, very close to my Mom, and I’m only in my 30s. I think Johnson is older than I am, he’s what, in his 50s or 60s, or older? You would think his older age would mean he would be able to handle this better than me.

I found it comforting when people told me they were praying for my Mom to get better, and that they were praying for me once they had heard my Mom had passed away.

I know that not all people react the same way to sickness or death, but if I can “keep it together” in the face of losing my Mom, surely Johnson can do so with his sick Mom.

I hope Johnson’s Mom gets better, btw.

I don’t even hate Johnson. I detest his attitude and actions, but I don’t hate him.

Comment by rainydayweather — November 19, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
tuffasnails,

It will be interesting to see that drawn-out meltdown. I will do my best to hasten that day.

When CJ erased every post I ever made in LGF, he had no idea how enraged he made me.

Seven YEARS of my life went into LGF, seven!

Charles, I hate your Communist ass and I will do everything in my power to break you.

Comment by savagenation — November 19, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
Wow, I had no idea. I would be unholy pissed too. He uses people and tosses them like garbage according to his moods, and I seriously doubt he has any real friends. I didn’t invest much in the way of contributing, but did alot of lurking and I felt my own loathing for him as time went on. As I’ve stated before, I will not visit there anymore to spare myself the exposure to the vitriolic hate that seems to bleed from the pages these days. I just can’t bring that into my life anymore. I’m all for open debate with mutual respect, but I will NOT be used as some kind of pawn to push an agenda, nor will I give him a view that could increase his advertising numbers. I think the man needs to be “revealed” for who he is, and for the “neo-con” farce agenda he’s trying to push. He has every right to free speech and to own a site, but let’s all call a spade a spade, shall we??

Btw…I feel your angst bro, and I you’ve got my support. Do you like my avitar? It’s the Orion Nebula. I think it decorates nicely.

Comment by tuffasnails — November 19, 2008 @ 10:23 pm
“and YOU’VE got my support”. (remove the *I* above)

Comment by tuffasnails — November 19, 2008 @ 10:24 pm
We all will bring down this clown, Charles Johson!

Comment by Rodan — November 19, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
It’s very pretty

Comment by savagenation — November 19, 2008 @ 10:32 pm
New chant- “Bring down the Clown-Bring down the Clown-Bring down the Clown!!”

Comment by tuffasnails — November 19, 2008 @ 10:38 pm
If you see post #109 (by Aussie Infidel), Johnson’s mood swings and such could be due to his Mom being sick from cancer. If that’s true, I’d cut him some slack.

I’m not saying I excuse Johnson’s shoddy treatment of people (I was on the receiving end of it, at times personally), but if he’s going through some personal crisis, it’s understandable.

I’d just content myself with posting to this blog and not go on a vendetta to ‘get’ him, ruin his life or blog, or anything like that.

Comment by rainydayweather — November 19, 2008 @ 10:47 pm
It would appear that Chuck is undergoing a mental meltdown, and seems to be experiencing a crisis of faith as his mother’s terminal cancer progresses unabated. About a month ago he requested several groups praying for his mom to cease and desist just about the time he went from weird to creepy.

That might explain Charles abhorrent behavior this last year and a half. Since I believe I was the first to call Charles on what I perceived as blatant Christian bigotry and double standard, it was apparent to me that Charles had a real deep-seeded disdain for my faith. However, for the first two years I was there, it was tolerated without much comment. And then early last summer, the animosity begin to escalate.

As I begin to witness the subtle pokes at mostly Protestants beyond the loopy Pat Robertson, I begin to suspect that Charles had a far more hostile attitude about Christians than he had previously let on.

If Charles’ mother is terminally ill, Charles may very well be having a crisis of faith, so to speak; maybe better defined as a lack of hope.

Let’s face it. When death is at a loved one’s door, and medical science has done all it can, you’re left with but a few choices of how to react. And in the end, when your loved one is gone, you can not avoid the conclusion one of two things just happened. They either made a transistion, or they are dust for eternity.

If you believe in nothing else but the physical, there is nothing to turn to for comfort. And I have often noted, when one has no faith or some convoluted faith, more often than not when faced with death, they begin to lash out. For proof, you can look none other than the liberal’s fair haired child Thomas Jefferson, who abandoned his obviously weak faith upon his wife’s death.

Comment by Tex Taylor — November 19, 2008 @ 11:14 pm
Make that transition…boy, do I need a preview box.

Comment by Tex Taylor — November 19, 2008 @ 11:15 pm
Is his mom really sick? Personally I do not think doctors know so much. No offense to any doctors on here.

Comment by avideditor — November 20, 2008 @ 12:55 am

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