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1:47 pm - December 2nd, 2008
According to progressive thought, first rule—Islam is always right.
If Islam is ever wrong, see first rule.
1:50 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Yaza,
It’s funny how they attack Catholics but give Islam a pass. It’s call hypocrisy!
2:03 pm - December 2nd, 2008
What we have here is a case of institutionalized counterculturalism. Since Islam is a minority in the US and Catholicism one of the larger sect of the dominant faith in the US, Christianity, the progressive mind always starts with the postulates that Islam is right and Catholicism is wrong.
The Progressives have taken counterculture to the point that they’ve institutionalized and now react in the same dogmatic fashion as though that they rant and rail against.
2:11 pm - December 2nd, 2008
I’m not Catholic but I am growing weary of the Catholic bashing. Not that is unexpected with respect to those so woefully blind to evil like this Think Progress Crowd of wimpy loons.
First, let’s be clear. A vast majority (99.9%) of Catholic priests are completely innocent of any wrong doing, have never molested children, and in fact, provide a very strong pillar for our entire American community, irrespective of your religious faith. Any time you venture to hospital for an emergency, are fed a warm meal when you find yourself hungry and without shelter, or are without hope and need a friend, chances are good you’ll be cared for on account of those wicked priests or nuns, by a Catholic that was taught that by a priest or nun.
Can the Think Progress crowd show us any measure of their good works? No, I didn’t think so.
Second, if you are Christian, the Bible makes it abundantly clear that any damage done to children by any adult, they would be better to have a millstone tied around their neck and thrown into the sea. But…
The Bible also calls homosexuality an abomination. So for the Think Progress Crowd, let me give you a little hint about your progress.
You will be joining the molesting priests for all of eternity…welcome to the club.
2:15 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Tex,
As a Catholic I respect other Christians and Jews. I respect Buddhists and Hindus too. Islam I don’t respect.
2:25 pm - December 2nd, 2008
You guys are idiots. The Catholics can be assholes AND the Islamic fanatics can be assholes too. In fact, look at it this way: any religious fanatic is an asshole. That makes things much simpler.
And boy, do you eejits *need* simple. Good grief.
2:26 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Is there an Islamic leader of the same stature and renown as the Catholic Pope making any political pronouncements that we progressives can respond to? We’d gladly “bash” him as readily if there as an equivalent oppression of human rights.
2:31 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Rodan,
There’s people that call themselves Muslim who I still respect that are decent people. But there is no doubt that Islam itself is evil. There is a large segment of the Islamic population I actually pity for having to live under the tyranny of fanatics. And I’ll explain why.
To talk to the cowards at Think Progress, you would imagine that they are also living under tyranny because the majority calling themselves Christian won’t bend to their wishes of rebuilding Sodom. However, everyone will note, that being a vast majority of Americans call themselves Christian and still continue to allow their religion to be mocked without fear of reprisal, choosing to follow the law of the ballot box. And since the leftist pussies at Think Progress really understand this, they’ll continue to rant and whine because they stay in a continual state of tantrum, never fearing for their own lives. Because if Priests were really evil like the Mullahs instead of the very definition of tolerance, the Think Progress cowards would find themselves without their head right about now.
However, most Muslims live under this fear of physical retaliation, proving once again Islam is a false religion and the progressives of America are not only cowards, but thankless hypocrites and maggots of the highest order.
2:33 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Patriotic/Liberal/Christian = oxymoron
2:41 pm - December 2nd, 2008
PatrioticLiberalChristian, you could start with the simple fact that christians pray for gays and muslims hang them.
Tell it to the world, screw the leaders. They don’t listen anyway.
2:46 pm - December 2nd, 2008
I consider myself Christian and I love the gays. Anyone that knows me knows this is true.
Civil Unions would give them the same “legal protections” of anyone else. They don’t want that (the missing rights they’re bitching about). Gay marriage is just a way to try to legislate acceptance.
I hate to tell them that Christians aren’t the only ones that are against homosexuality and not only that, all Christians don’t feel that way anyway.
2:46 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Lib said: Is there an Islamic leader of the same stature and renown as the Catholic Pope making any political pronouncements that we progressives can respond to? We’d gladly “bash” him as readily if there as an equivalent oppression of human rights.
I say: Yeah, he releases a video every few months from that cave in Pakistan. only problem is, you DON’T bash him. You talk about how we need to be sensitive to their needs and not deal so heavy handedly with them, then take cheap shots at Catholics inferring that they all like to diddle little children.
And yet, it is the liberal groups that YOU support that happen to want to make it legal to diddle little children.
Remember, Patriotic Liberal Christian, you are judged by your actions and the causes you support qualify as your actions. So, one day, when you answer to the Creator, he’ll ask about why you support the legalization of diddling little children and the support of the normalization of homosexuality.
There are only a couple things in the bible that God says are truely horrible. One is turning away from Him, the other is sexual impurity. It is the Left which embraces both.
Go ahead and talk about ‘acceptance’ and how Christ ate with the ’sinners’ . . . go ahead and preach about the pacifist Jesus. He never was. His disciples quaked in fear of upsetting Christ. He regularly called out those who were doing wrong and ripped into them. He made a weapon and cleared out the temple…..
and you are content ripping on the Catholic Church and coddling islamic terrorism.
2:47 pm - December 2nd, 2008
I eat shrimp too
Bad Christian!
2:50 pm - December 2nd, 2008
PLC,
The Muslsim do have several center figures.
Ayatollah Khameneie, who is the leader of Shiites, the mufti of Cairo who is considered the senior Sunni cleric.
But you ignore them and want to be their friends. Why?
2:55 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Remember, Patriotic Liberal Christian, you are judged by your actions and the causes you support qualify as your actions. So, one day, when you answer to the Creator, he’ll ask about why you support the legalization of diddling little children
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
3:01 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Hey, Leftside Annie is right! The Pope hasn’t announced the removal of the ‘death to gays’ fatwa yet! Now, this is progress!
http://iraqilgbtuk.blogspot.com/2006/05/sistani-removes-death-to-gays-fatwa.html
Wonder if she’s even smart enough to get the joke? Everyone understands the progressives don’t understand humor unless it’s about something deviant.
3:22 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Why do I just not give a tuppeny toss what the degenerate left say? They will answer for their perfidy eventually one way or another. In this life at the end of an Islamist bayonet or in the next when they are called to account.
I’m forced by obligation to love them and even forgive their transgressions but boy oh boy do I not like these totalitarian evil twisting bastards posing as democrats.
I guess that included you too Patriotic/Liberal/Christian. So straighten up and fly right mate. This pertains especially to you given the faith that you have been afforded and then go on the throw it back into the face of the Lord and carry in in your degenerate hypocrisy. Be afraid. Be very afraid!
4:02 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Yes, LanceKates, there is Osama bin Ladin—whom I think is dead, but that’s beside the point—; There’s Ahmadenijad, constantly talking about the coming of the 12th Imam, and apparently planning to help him along with nukes. There was the late, unlamented Ayatollah Khomeni, and the gaggle of mullahs he left behind, to tyrannize over Iran. And, while not quite a holy man, there’s the late, far-too-lamented Yassir Arafat, the bloody terrorist, whom the Left canonized as a saintly hero, champion of the Palestinian people. So there are any number of Islamic leaders who hold stature equal to the pope—and many of whom can command actual armies and finance terrorists (like our dear “friends”, the Saudis); the pope doesn’t have any armies (no, Opus Dei and the Swiss guards in the funny costumes don’t count), and he’s a pauper compared to many oil-rich Islamic leaders. So, I’d say in a lot of ways, some of them possess far more clout than he does.
But the first rule of the Left is—Islam is never wrong.
If Islam is wrong—see the first rule. Then shout down those who disagree with you.
4:02 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Yes, Rodan, it’s called hypocrisy.
4:10 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Exact same principles why Islam sided with the Nazis in WWII as with this. The common enemy is Judeo/Christian faith in the bible. Speaking as a Christian, The New Testament doctrine is plain in that ALL have sinned and need to turn to follow the path of righteousness, and that “Christian” is not a title without the price of wholesale commitment [deny yourself and take up your cross and follow me as Jesus put it]. From this teaching, no man is no better than anyone else before God and all need a Savior. Christians cannot condemn anybody to hell by their own merits because the whole covenant is offered “while yet we were ALL sinners Christ died for us”. This is how I form my attitude towards Gays, Muslims, Atheists etc…my job now is to simply spread the good news and God is the ultimate Judge of humanity.
But here is the distinction between “Kings and Priests”. Kings, which means established Government acting on honorable principles are reserve the right to punish evil and make war…while the Priests, offer invitations of the faith and call for spiritual renewal. This is where the Forefathers of America derived “Separation of powers” from. The churches’ job is not to make war & law and the Government’s job is not make religion. The two interact in principles that guide and uphold integrity of each other, but do not hinder the free exercise there of. I want Gays and Muslims to become Christians before any conflict…but at the same time I love my neighbor and I will not let any destruction come to his/her doorstep. I will protect my Nation and act like a Christian while honoring the separation of powers.
5:38 pm - December 2nd, 2008
Liberal Christian said: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
So you are not a liberal? You do not vote for Democrats? Well, that’s good to know. you may want to change your name though, if you are not a democrat-supporting liberal.
12:41 am - December 3rd, 2008
NEWS FLASH: It ain’t the MooseLimbs who got that ridiculous law passed in California. It ain’t the MooseLimbs who are pushing to pass off
creationism“intelligent design” as sound science. Even the 9/11 attacks did not get one scrap of Shari’a passed into law; the only long-term damage they did to our nation was in how the Publicans and george w. bush reacted to them. (Oh, that’s right, they hate us for our freedoms. So just ditch the Constitution for Fascism and maybe they won’t hate us anymore.)2:34 am - December 3rd, 2008
I for one do not have much love for the vatican
Here is one of many reasons why
Jasenovac became the largest and most important concentration camp (sabirni logor) and extermination camp complex in the Nezavisna Hrvatska Drzava (NDH), Independent State of Croatia, during World War II. The Jasenovac concentration camp complex would be crucial in the systematic and planned genocide of the Orthodox Serbs and Jews by the Catholic Croats and Bosnian Muslims.
Other concentration camps were established in Sisak, Stara Gradiska, Djakovo, Lepoglava, Loborgrad. In all, there would be 22 concentration camps in the NDH, almost half of which were commanded by Roman Catholic Croatian priests.
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/othercamps/images/Jasenovac%20prisoner%20being%20beheaded%20with%20a%20saw.jpg
The treatment of inmates was so horrific that on the night of August 29, 1942, bets were made among the prison guards as to who could liquidate the largest number of inmates. One of the guards, Petar Brzica reportedly cut the throats of 1,360 prisoners with a butcher knife. A gold watch, a silver service, a roasted suckling pig, and wine were among his rewards.
n addition to the horrendous conditions in the Jasenovac camps, the guards also cruelly tortured, terrorized, and murdered prisoners at will. Here the most varied forms of torture were used: finger and toe nails were pulled out with metal instruments, eyes were dug out with specially constructed hooks, people were blinded by having needles stuck in their eyes, flesh was cut and then salted.
People were also flayed, had their noses, ears and tongues cut off with wire cutters, and had awls stuck in their hearts. Daughters were raped in front of their mothers, sons were tortured in front of their fathers.
The prisoners and all those who ended up in Jasenovac had their throats cut by the Ustaša with specially designed knives, or they were killed with axes, mallets and hammers; they were also shot, or they were hung from trees or light poles. Some were burned alive in hot furnaces, boiled in cauldrons, or drowned in the River Sava.
Then there is then Catholic ratlines. It is accepted that Catholic priests, notably Hudal and Draganović, were actively involved in smuggling wanted war criminals. What is disputed is the extent to which their actions were sanctioned by higher authorities within the Church.
It should not be forgotten Draganovic helped the Ustashe launder the stolen treasure with the help of the Vatican Bank: This money was used to fund its religious activities, but also to fund the escape of Ustashe leaders on the Rat Line.
The Vatican is not to be trusted
2:49 am - December 3rd, 2008
And yet, it is the liberal groups that YOU support that happen to want to make it legal to diddle little children.
Proof or it ain’t so.
7:24 am - December 3rd, 2008
“NEWS FLASH: It ain’t the MooseLimbs who got that ridiculous law passed in California. It ain’t the MooseLimbs who are pushing to pass off creationism “intelligent design” as sound science. Even the 9/11 attacks did not get one scrap of Shari’a passed into law; the only long-term damage they did to our nation was in how the Publicans and george w. bush reacted to them.”
Like Darwinism is just sound science, and even like science itself can explain the origins of life to begin with. Science is testable, observable, repeatable…none of which Darwinism is. Science is not “anti-God” beliefs by default. If the evidence points to a origin that defies all explanation by natural means, then Intelligent design theory is just as viable theory to present as the Darwin theory [last time I checked Darwinism is still called a theory]. Man you come across as a LGFer with the rant.
Standing up to preserve the definition of marriage is not “horrible”. Maybe to extreme left wing nutz who think a real family can be daddy & daddy or mommmy & mommy. I’ll reject gay marriage if it came to Minnesota.
Like Bush is a true conservative, hardly…the guy for the last 4 years has been swimming in a moderate, liberal leaning PC ocean that has disenchanted real true to principles conservatives across the nation.
Is this the classic attempt of deflection by trying to tear down one side that only serves to offer apologetics for the other as “they are not so bad, just look at the other side!!!” ???
7:38 am - December 3rd, 2008
Well, of course the Church has to take this line, but don’t think that all Catholics support it. We’re not monolithic by any means, nor are Muslims. But leave it to bigots on any side of the aisle to lump everyone in together. Thanks for the heads up on this site, BTW. I hadn’t noticed it yet.
7:52 am - December 3rd, 2008
NEWS FLASH: It ain’t the MooseLimbs who got that ridiculous law passed in California. -Sura
Obviously. Gay marriage isn’t in question under sharia. The only question about homosexuality in islam is if they should stone them, throw them from a high building or let a brick wall fall on them as the proper instruments of their demise.
Moral equivalence doesn’t help them or us.
7:59 am - December 3rd, 2008
Usually they fall back on the trusty hanging.
BUT CHRISTIANS ARE THE ONLY ENEMY OF QUEERS!
/s
8:24 am - December 3rd, 2008
Sure 109 said: Proof or it ain’t so.
I Say: Well… how about the Left’s love of Kinsey’s ideals of sexual contact? How about the Folsom Street Fair which takes place in Lefty CA and not in Righty TX? How about the support for groups like NAMBLA, which came not from the Conservatives, but from the Liberal Left?
The Left has ALWAYS been the headquarters of the sexual deviants.
8:27 am - December 3rd, 2008
I doubt those NAMBLA members like you were pulling the voting lever for McCain asshole.
9:38 am - December 3rd, 2008
Don’t have to support it at all if you’re a lib, masquerading as a Catholic. Just bend the rules when you don’t agree with the message, yet still call yourself whatever you want. What a great concept! Meaningless, but easy to follow for the mentally challenged.
10:12 am - December 3rd, 2008
Tex, honestly. Polls frequently show little correlation with the beliefs of American Catholics and Vatican Doctrine. That doesn’t mean we’re all little Martin Luthers out here.
12:11 pm - December 3rd, 2008
Lex,
Martin Luther? I thought that was settled about 40 years ago.
Face it sister. You’re a KKKos Kid and an Obama lap dog. Stop the nonsense, buck up and quit spinning the baloney about how you are some “moderate” Christian. Virtually everything you stand for is an anathema to Christian doctrine, which of course includes Catholic doctrine.
You’ll blow on about how you’re a military supporting love, then head over to the Watch and kiss the asses of the American hatin’ crew, including the providing the threads, while blaming somebody like George Bush and Sarah Palin for every evil. So take a firm stand for once and admit you’re a lib in good standing with the pagans, and you loathe the religious right, or whatever your ilk is calling them these days.
12:37 pm - December 3rd, 2008
I Say: Well… how about the Left’s love of Kinsey’s ideals of sexual contact?
The original post was about pedophilia. Here you drag all the other so-called deviants in. Nice bit of misdirection.
How about the Folsom Street Fair which takes place in Lefty CA and not in Righty TX?
The original post was about pedophilia. Here you drag the Feelthy Queers in. Nice bit of misdirection.
How about the support for groups like NAMBLA, which came not from the Conservatives, but from the Liberal Left?
Who among “the Left”, whatever that is, supports NAMBLA? P.S. Proof or it ain’t so. Bald assertion is not proof.
The Left has ALWAYS been the headquarters of the sexual deviants.
What is a “deviant”, and who the hell are you to say that such and such is or is not so?
1:49 pm - December 3rd, 2008
To be a man, look at another man’s red eye, and think “yum yum”. That’s a deviant.
Simple enough for you?
2:48 pm - December 3rd, 2008
Sura 19…. at least be a TOUCH honest here.
“Prove that the left supports sexual deviants!” *proof given* “That’s not proof, it isn’t true! LALALALALALALA I can’t hear you! LALALALALALA”
pfft. do you REALLY suggest that liberalism (i.e. The Left…. your side… the side you cuddle up to and have dirty thoughts about) ISN’T the side that cuddles up to such sexual deviancy, then turns around and bashes the Catholic Church as a whole for the acts of a small group of wrong people? Come on….
The left is a bunch of hypocrites, and you apparently are their leader. This is little more than the same mentality that it takes to call the American Flag “Tacky” (A certain CA Congresswoman), and now we see liberals rush to the flag as fairweather fans because ‘their guy’ won.
Liberalism is little more than an egocentric and childish lifestyle of wiggling around in a temper tantrum every time you don’t get your way and then screaming when the ‘other side’ does what you say you love to do.
Here’s a case in point. One Congressman was caught running a homosexual brothel out of his apartment. Another Congressman was engaging in the activity of picking up a homosexual man in a bathroom of an airport with some creative foot tapping. Which one of the two was in the news? The Republican toe tapper. Which one wasn’t? The Democrat running a house of homosexual prostitution.
The only time that the Left (and that includes you) seems to be against sexual deviants is when it is a conservative engaging in the activity.
8:24 pm - December 3rd, 2008
Sura 19…. at least be a TOUCH honest here.
Dear kettle, You are black. Signed, The Pot. (P.S. Aren’t you supposed to call me Sura 9?)
“Prove that the left supports sexual deviants!”
Go back and read #24 again. I asked for proof that “the Left” (whatever that is) supports “mak[ing] it legal to diddle little children.” In #29 you provided no such proof, choosing to hate on the Feelthy Queers® instead.
NEWS FLASH: Feelthy Queers® are not necessarily kiddie diddlers. Feelthy Queers® deserve to be left in peace, on the same terms as straights; kiddie diddlers belong under the nearest state pen.
*proof given*
Bull.
LK: Teh LIBS luuuuuv them some kiddie diddlers!
109: Proof or it ain’t so.
LK: Well, teh LIBS luuuuuuv them some Feelthy Queers®. So there!
the side that cuddles up to such sexual deviancy
…whatever that means…
then turns around and bashes the Catholic Church as a whole for the acts of a small group of wrong people?
A small group of wrong people, and the bishops who shuffle them off to new parishes to cover up their crimes instead of defrocking their kiddie-diddling asses and turning them over to the police for the prosecution that they deserve. To say nothing of the archbishops and cardinals, and yes, Maledict XVI, who aren’t whacking said bishops over the head. Yes, the RCC as an institution is culpable.
One Congressman was caught running a homosexual brothel out of his apartment. Another Congressman was engaging in the activity of picking up a homosexual man in a bathroom of an airport with some creative foot tapping.
Quoth a well-referenced Wikipedia paragraph:
So, it would seem, one of Barney Frank’s pals ran an “escort service” out of Frank’s apartment. Frank told him to piss off when he found out. And isn’t this juicy — the Publican toe-tapper himself tried to get Frank kicked out!
Meanwhile, the toe-tapper hates on them Feelthy Queers® and it turns out he’s a Feelthy Queer® himself. Hypocrisy, thine initials are G, O, and P.
Which one of the two was in the news?
Both of them. Next!
8:26 pm - December 3rd, 2008
OK, here’s that Wikipedia cite: here. Preview Would Be My Friend, if this were chez Chucky.
8:33 pm - December 3rd, 2008
*yawns*
Go back and read #24 again. I asked for proof that “the Left” (whatever that is) supports “mak[ing] it legal to diddle little children.” In #29 you provided no such proof, choosing to hate on the Feelthy Queers® instead.
Nambla. You have heard of it…. yes? They found support from the liberal left, not the conservative right.
Quoth a well-referenced Wikipedia paragraph:
Oh… well. Who am I to argue with Wikipedia. They’ve always been shown to be SO truthful and intellectually honest……
…..
So, it would seem, one of Barney Frank’s pals ran an “escort service” out of Frank’s apartment. Frank told him to piss off when he found out. And isn’t this juicy — the Publican toe-tapper himself tried to get Frank kicked out!
Well, nope. Your story WOULD be true, except that it would require that Barney Frank have no clue that his apartment was turned into a den of homosexual prostitution. Given that he is a CONGRESSMAN, you’ll understand why I find that impossible to believe.
Meanwhile, the toe-tapper hates on them Feelthy Queers® and it turns out he’s a Feelthy Queer® himself. Hypocrisy, thine initials are G, O, and P.
Which one of the two was in the news?
Both of them. Next!
Once again…. you give Frank a pass and spew hatred against the REpublican. You say that I hate gay people, but then you really seem to rip on a homosexual for being a homosexual while being a Republican.
Who is it who is the hateful bigot? . . . I guess that’d be you.
9:28 pm - December 3rd, 2008
Nambla. You have heard of it…. yes?
And you seem to know an awful lot about it, no?
See, I can make insinuations and bald, unproven assertions too.
They found support from the liberal left
…Still waiting for proof that “the left”, whatever that is, supports kiddie diddling. And no, some shadowy organization that might or might not even exist outside the fever-dreams of wingnuts is not “the left”.
Oh… well. Who am I to argue with Wikipedia. They’ve always been shown to be SO truthful and intellectually honest……
That’s what the references are for. You know, the little numbers in the brackets, like this one: [1], where you can fact-check the claims.
Well, nope. Your story WOULD be true, except that it would require that Barney Frank have no clue that his apartment was turned into a den of homosexual prostitution.
Here’s one of those references. Yeah, it’s Media Matters, which is Librul Librul LIBRUL THEY’RE COMING TO TAKE ME AWAY! etc…
That’s MM quoting the Ethics Committee BTW. Evidently the Ethics Committee wasn’t convinced that this prostitution ring even existed.
Once again…. you give Frank a pass
See above. There’s no “there” there.
and spew hatred against the REpublican.
I’ll remember this bit of pique the next time some wingnut spews about the “Democrat Party”.
You say that I hate gay people,
Well, lessee, calling them “deviants” and repeating Publican lies about a gay congressman doesn’t show your attitude about the Feelthy Queers®. Right. Got it.
but then you really seem to rip on a homosexual for being a
homosexual while being